A Unicameral Legislature for Chuuk

Ran Annim!! Or depending upon which Island group you may be from, Ran Allim!!

I have been following this forum from some time, and see that Chuuk has to get a unicameral legislature. I have given this much thinking, and have developed what follows.

I don''t know if this will work, but I will paste part of the Legislative section of the current constitution here. The part in double brackets [[]] should be eliminated, and the part in italics is what I have added.

Let me know what you think!

LEGISLATIVE

Section 1. The legislative power of the State Government is vested in the Legislature [[which consists of the Senate and the House of Representatives]]. This power extends to all rightful subjects of legislation not inconsistent with this Constitution or the Constitution of the Federated States of Micronesia.

Section 2. Membership in the Legislature is based both on regional equality, defined as “at- large” members, [[in the Senate]] and on population and geographical configuration, defined as “two year” members [[in the House of Representatives]]. The [[Senate]] Legislature shall consist [[consists]] of [[10]] 18 members, [[who shall be known as Senators,]] of which each Senatorial Region shall elect [[two. The House of Representatives consists of 28 members, who shall be known as Representatives. A Representative District shall have at least one member.]] one at-large member, and of which each Representative District shall elect one two year member.

Section 3.

(a) For purposes of representation in the Legislature, the State of Chuuk is divided into 5 Senatorial Regions, as follows: (1) Northern Namoneas, consisting of the islands of Weno, Fono and Piis-Panewu; (2) Southern Namoneas, consisting of the islands of Tonoas, Etten, Fefen, Parem, Siis, Totiw, and Uman; (3) Faichuk, consisting of the islands of Udot, Eot, Ramanum, Fanapanges, Polle, Paata, Wonei, and Tol; (4) Mortlocks, consisting of the islands of Nema, Losap, Piis-Emmwar, Namoluk, Ettal, Moch, Kuttu, Ta, Satowan, Lukunoch and Oneop; and (5) Nortwest Islands, consisting of the islands of Nomwin, Fananu, Ruo, Murilo, Onoun, Makur, Onou, Unanu, Piherarh, Houk, Polowat, Tamatam, and Pollap.

[[(b) Representatives shall be elected as follows:

1) Northern Namoneas: Representative District 1, consisting of Weno, Fono, and Piis-Panewu, 5 members;

2) Southern Namoneas: Representative District 2, consisting of Tonoas and Etten, 2 members; Representative District 3, consisting of Fefen, Parem, Siis, and Totiw, 3 members; Representative District 4, consisting of Uman, 2 members;

3) Faichuk: Representative District 5, consisting of Udot, Eot, Ramanum and Fanapanges, 2 members; Representative District 6, consisting of Polle, Paata, and Wonei, 2 members; Representative District 7, consisting of Tol, 3 members;

4) Mortlocks: Representative District 8, consisting of Nema, Losap, and Piis-Emwar, 2 members; Representative District 9, consisting of Namoluk, Ettal, Moch, and Kuttu, 2 members; Representative District 10, consisting of Ta, Satowan, Lukunoch, and Oneop, 2 members;

5) Northwest Islands: Representative District 11, consisting of Nomwin, Fananu, Ruo, and Murilo, 1 member; Representative District 12, consisting of Onoun, Makur, Onou, Unanu, and Piherarh, 1 member; Representative District 13, consisting of Houk, Polowat, Tamatam and Pollap, 1 member.]]

(b) Two Year Members elected according to regional equality shall be elected as follows:

1) Northern Namoneas: Representative District 1, consisting of Weno, 1 member; Representative District 2, consisting of Fono and Piis-Panewu, 1 member;

2) Southern Namoneas: Representative District 3, consisting of Tonoas and Etten, 1 member; Representative District 4, consisting of Fefan, Parem, and Siis, 1 member; Representative District 5, consisting of Totiw and Uman, 1 member;

3) Faichuk: Representative District 6, consisting of Udot, Eot, Ramanumand Fanapanges, 1 member; Representative District 7, consisting of Polle, Paata, and Wonei, 1 member;
Representative District 8, consisting of Tol, 1 member;

4. Mortlocks: Representative District 9, consisting of Nema, Losap, and Piis-Emwar, 1 member; Representative District 10, consisting of Namoluk, Ettal, Moch, and Kuttu, 1 member; Representative District 11, consisting of Satowan, Lukonoch, and Oneop, 1 member;

5)Northwest Islands: Representative District 12, consisting of Nomwin, Fananu, Ruo, and Murilo, 1 member; Representative District 13, consisting of Onoun, Makur, Onou, Unanu, Piherarh, Houk, Polowat, Tamatam, and Pollap, 1 member.


Section 4. [[Each Senator shall serve for a 4 year term. Each Representative shall serve for a 2 year term.]] At-large members shall serve a four year term. Two year members shall serve a two year term. The terms of all members of the Legislature shall begin at noon on the sixth Tuesday following the general election.

Section 5. Every 2 years when a new Legislature convenes, [[each house]] the Legislature shall organize by election of one of its members as presiding officer. [[For the Senate, s]] Such presiding officer shall be designated [[President of the Senate, and for the House of Representatives, such presiding officer shall be designated]] Speaker of the [[House of Representatives]] Legislature. Other officers may also be elected, as provided by the rules of each house. The [[President of the Senate]] Speaker or such lesser officer as the rules may provide shall preside when the Legislature meets [[in joint session]].

Section 6. A vacancy in [[either house of ]] the Legislature shall be filled for the unexpired term by a special election, but an unexpired term of less than one year shall be filled by appointment of the Governor.


Section 7.

(a) No person is eligible to serve [[as a Representative unless at least 25 years of age, or as a Senator unless at least 35 years of age]] in the Legislature unless at least 30 years of age on the day of election; was a born Chuukese, has been a resident and registered voter of the [[Representative]] District or [[Senatorial]] Region from which elected for at least [[5]] 3 years prior to the day of election, and is a citizen of the Federated States of Micronesia. Residence is defined as being physically present in the district and/or region for at least 180 days per calendar year.

(b) No person convicted of a felony is eligible to serve as a member of the Legislature, even if pardoned. A member of the Legislature who has been convicted of a felony shall automatically be expelled from the Legislature, but is eligible to run again if the conviction is reversed on appeal.

(c) [[Each house ]]The Legislature is the sole judge of the elections and qualifications of its members, and shall be bound by the provisions of this Constitution in deciding whether to seat any particular elected member.

Section 8.

(a) [[Except as limited by this Constitution, ]]Members of the Legislature shall receive [[annual salaries as prescribed by statute. No member may receive as salary and expense allowance a total amount greater than 3/4 of the equivalent to which the Governor is entitled by law.]] as compensation a sum not to exceed $150 per day for each regular session day not to exceed 60 days, and a sum not to exceed $150 per day for each special session day not to exceed 30 days. Each member may also be reimbursed for necessary and proper expenses, upon production of verifiable receipts, not to exceed $10,000 per year. The amounts of compensation and expense reimbursement may only be increased by amendment to the Constitution.

[[(b) The expense allowance for each member of the Legislature may not exceed 1/5 of the member’s annual salary.]]

[[(c) Upon request of the Governor or both of the presiding officers of the Legislature, the Election Commission shall submit the following question to the voters at the next general election: “Shall there be an increase in the salaries of the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, or members of the Legislature?” If a majority of the votes cast on this question is in the affirmative, the Legislature may provide for an increase not to exceed $2,000 for each officer.]]

Section 9.

(a) A member of the Legislature may hold no other public office or public [[or private ]] employment, except as a notary public, a member of an emergency organization for civil defense or disaster relief, or an employee or member of a constitutional convention or commission. A member of the Legislature may not receive any compensation or remuneration from any other governmental branch, agency, authority, or instrumentality, or from any organization whose income is derived from state funds.

(b) During a term of service and [[the]] three years following the expiration of the term, a member of the Legislature may not be appointed to any office or employment which was created by the Legislature during such term.

(c) A member of the Legislature may not engage in any activity which conflicts with the proper discharge of the duties of a legislator. Appropriation of public funds which provide additional compensation or expense allowance in excess of the express terms of this Constitution shall be considered a violation of this section by every member of the Legislature, whether that member approved the appropriation or not.

Comments

  • I think I have figured out how to do this stuff now. Anybody that might be interested should print out this stuff, so they can see how it goes. This is only part of the Legislative article, and of course the rest would have to be amended to conform to the changes here.

    I will copy the same passage as before, and use the strike out tool to better illustrate what will be eliminated.

    LEGISLATIVE

    Section 1. The legislative power of the State Government is vested in the Legislature [[which consists of the Senate and the House of Representatives]]. This power extends to all rightful subjects of legislation not inconsistent with this Constitution or the Constitution of the Federated States of Micronesia.

    Section 2. Membership in the Legislature is based both on regional equality, defined as “at- large” members, [[in the Senate]] and on population and geographical configuration, defined as “two year” members [[in the House of Representatives]]. The [[Senate]] Legislature shall consist [[consists]] of [[10]] 18 members, [[who shall be known as Senators,]] of which each Senatorial Region shall elect [[two. The House of Representatives consists of 28 members, who shall be known as Representatives. A Representative District shall have at least one member.]] one at-large member, and of which each Representative District shall elect one two year member.

    Section 3.

    (a) For purposes of representation in the Legislature, the State of Chuuk is divided into 5 Senatorial Regions, as follows: (1) Northern Namoneas, consisting of the islands of Weno, Fono and Piis-Panewu; (2) Southern Namoneas, consisting of the islands of Tonoas, Etten, Fefen, Parem, Siis, Totiw, and Uman; (3) Faichuk, consisting of the islands of Udot, Eot, Ramanum, Fanapanges, Polle, Paata, Wonei, and Tol; (4) Mortlocks, consisting of the islands of Nema, Losap, Piis-Emmwar, Namoluk, Ettal, Moch, Kuttu, Ta, Satowan, Lukunoch and Oneop; and (5) Nortwest Islands, consisting of the islands of Nomwin, Fananu, Ruo, Murilo, Onoun, Makur, Onou, Unanu, Piherarh, Houk, Polowat, Tamatam, and Pollap.

    [[(b) Representatives shall be elected as follows:

    1) Northern Namoneas: Representative District 1, consisting of Weno, Fono, and Piis-Panewu, 5 members;

    2) Southern Namoneas: Representative District 2, consisting of Tonoas and Etten, 2 members; Representative District 3, consisting of Fefen, Parem, Siis, and Totiw, 3 members; Representative District 4, consisting of Uman, 2 members;

    3) Faichuk: Representative District 5, consisting of Udot, Eot, Ramanum and Fanapanges, 2 members; Representative District 6, consisting of Polle, Paata, and Wonei, 2 members; Representative District 7, consisting of Tol, 3 members;

    4) Mortlocks: Representative District 8, consisting of Nema, Losap, and Piis-Emwar, 2 members; Representative District 9, consisting of Namoluk, Ettal, Moch, and Kuttu, 2 members; Representative District 10, consisting of Ta, Satowan, Lukunoch, and Oneop, 2 members;

    5) Northwest Islands: Representative District 11, consisting of Nomwin, Fananu, Ruo, and Murilo, 1 member; Representative District 12, consisting of Onoun, Makur, Onou, Unanu, and Piherarh, 1 member; Representative District 13, consisting of Houk, Polowat, Tamatam and Pollap, 1 member.
    ]]

    (b) Two Year Members elected according to regional equality shall be elected as follows:

    1) Northern Namoneas: Representative District 1, consisting of Weno, 1 member; Representative District 2, consisting of Fono and Piis-Panewu, 1 member;

    2) Southern Namoneas: Representative District 3, consisting of Tonoas and Etten, 1 member; Representative District 4, consisting of Fefan, Parem, and Siis, 1 member; Representative District 5, consisting of Totiw and Uman, 1 member;

    3) Faichuk: Representative District 6, consisting of Udot, Eot, Ramanumand Fanapanges, 1 member; Representative District 7, consisting of Polle, Paata, and Wonei, 1 member;
    Representative District 8, consisting of Tol, 1 member;

    4. Mortlocks: Representative District 9, consisting of Nema, Losap, and Piis-Emwar, 1 member; Representative District 10, consisting of Namoluk, Ettal, Moch, and Kuttu, 1 member; Representative District 11, consisting of Satowan, Lukonoch, and Oneop, 1 member;

    5)Northwest Islands: Representative District 12, consisting of Nomwin, Fananu, Ruo, and Murilo, 1 member; Representative District 13, consisting of Onoun, Makur, Onou, Unanu, Piherarh, Houk, Polowat, Tamatam, and Pollap, 1 member.


    Section 4. [[Each Senator shall serve for a 4 year term. Each Representative shall serve for a 2 year term.]] At-large members shall serve a four year term. Two year members shall serve a two year term. The terms of all members of the Legislature shall begin at noon on the sixth Tuesday following the general election.

    Section 5. Every 2 years when a new Legislature convenes, [[each house]] the Legislature shall organize by election of one of its members as presiding officer. [[For the Senate, s]] Such presiding officer shall be designated [[President of the Senate, and for the House of Representatives, such presiding officer shall be designated]] Speaker of the [[House of Representatives]] Legislature. Other officers may also be elected, as provided by the rules of each house. The [[President of the Senate]] Speaker or such lesser officer as the rules may provide shall preside when the Legislature meets [[in joint session]].

    Section 6. A vacancy in [[either house of ]] the Legislature shall be filled for the unexpired term by a special election, but an unexpired term of less than one year shall be filled by appointment of the Governor.


    Section 7.

    (a) No person is eligible to serve [[as a Representative unless at least 25 years of age, or as a Senator unless at least 35 years of age]] in the Legislature unless at least 30 years of age on the day of election; was a born Chuukese, has been a resident and registered voter of the [[Representative]] District or [[Senatorial]] Region from which elected for at least [[5]] 3 years prior to the day of election, and is a citizen of the Federated States of Micronesia. Residence is defined as being physically present in the district and/or region for at least 180 days per calendar year.

    (b) No person convicted of a felony is eligible to serve as a member of the Legislature, even if pardoned. A member of the Legislature who has been convicted of a felony shall automatically be expelled from the Legislature, but is eligible to run again if the conviction is reversed on appeal.

    (c) [[Each house ]]The Legislature is the sole judge of the elections and qualifications of its members, and shall be bound by the provisions of this Constitution in deciding whether to seat any particular elected member.

    Section 8.

    (a) [[Except as limited by this Constitution, ]]Members of the Legislature shall receive [[annual salaries as prescribed by statute. No member may receive as salary and expense allowance a total amount greater than 3/4 of the equivalent to which the Governor is entitled by law.]] as compensation a sum not to exceed $150 per day for each regular session day not to exceed 60 days, and a sum not to exceed $150 per day for each special session day not to exceed 30 days. Each member may also be reimbursed for necessary and proper expenses, upon production of verifiable receipts, not to exceed $10,000 per year. The amounts of compensation and expense reimbursement may only be increased by amendment to the Constitution.

    [[(b) The expense allowance for each member of the Legislature may not exceed 1/5 of the member’s annual salary.]]

    [[(c) Upon request of the Governor or both of the presiding officers of the Legislature, the Election Commission shall submit the following question to the voters at the next general election: “Shall there be an increase in the salaries of the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, or members of the Legislature?” If a majority of the votes cast on this question is in the affirmative, the Legislature may provide for an increase not to exceed $2,000 for each officer.]]

    Section 9.

    (a) A member of the Legislature may hold no other public office or public [[or private ]] employment, except as a notary public, a member of an emergency organization for civil defense or disaster relief, or an employee or member of a constitutional convention or commission. A member of the Legislature may not receive any compensation or remuneration from any other governmental branch, agency, authority, or instrumentality, or from any organization whose income is derived from state funds.

    (b) During a term of service and [[the]] three years following the expiration of the term, a member of the Legislature may not be appointed to any office or employment which was created by the Legislature during such term.

    (c) A member of the Legislature may not engage in any activity which conflicts with the proper discharge of the duties of a legislator. Appropriation of public funds which provide additional compensation or expense allowance in excess of the express terms of this Constitution shall be considered a violation of this section by every member of the Legislature, whether that member approved the appropriation or not.

    Pretty good stuff, even if I do say so myself.
  • can't you just keep it short?
  • Unfortunately, the Legislative Article of the Chuuk constitution is not short! And amendments have to be made to the existing constitution, rather than simply writing a new one. That's why I said the best way to digest this proposal is to print it out, and take some time to look at it.

    In general, the changes reduce the number of legislators from 38 to 18, create two classes of legislators within the unicameral legislature, and significantly limit the compensation available to the legislators. The way bills are voted into laws is also changed, to require majority votes of both classes of legislators.

    Don't fret, it isn't that hard. If I can write it, you can read and understand it. You are as smart as I think I am!
  • Sarem Chuuk,

    Good start. I am not sure about office holders of the legislature though, example- should there be a president, speaker etc. I propose that all members of the legislature should be of the same term ( 2 0r 3 years) saving election costs.

    Perhaps, the "residency clause" should also be eliminated and replace with " must be Chuukese by birth". That would widen the pool of prospective candidates with experience, who live/employed elsewhere, ( eg, Pohnpei, Saipan and the USA etc ) who want to return to Chuuk to exercise their birth right to run for the legislature or any public offices, may I add.

    Keep going Saram you are doing just fine.
  • Sarem Chuuk:

    Nice going! Your proposal look realistic and almost feasible. If I may add, this current Chuuk Legislature 2Houses was mainly copied from the (CNMI - Saipan) 2Houses own. I hope you are in success for the amendment. What we need is a substantial house. And surely, we don't need all the 38 bodies whom are obviously straining the states funds. Keep it up, you have my support!

    Kinisou chapur,
    Chris
  • Rebel and Chris:

    Thanks for the kind words. Chris, it is the people of Chuuk, not little ol' me, who have to be successful in amending the constitution. And that is a very hard process anyway.

    Rebel: Regarding the officers. This amendment proposes only a Speaker of the Legislature, together with "other officers... as provided by the rules of" The Legislature. "Each house" should be striken in favor of "the Legislature" in the next to last sentence of Section 5.

    Residency is a big problem. I put this change in because I felt that it would be important for elected officials to have been actually IN Chuuk for a while before running for office. I didn't think that someone who has lived in Hawaii or Portland for twenty years would really have a good idea of the current conditions and needs on the ground in Chuuk. I reduced the period of time in residency from 5 to 3 years, but added a real requirement for actually living IN Chuuk for that reason. Must be Chuukese by birth remains a qualification (Section 7(a)). I'm not sure that running for elected office is a "birthright," either. Seems more a privilege and a formidible responsibility to me.

    But thanks for the kind words. Hope these ideas are helpful. I will try to post the part of the constitution relating to the procedures for amendment when I get a chance.

    Kinisou Chapur.
  • Nice going, Sarem Chuuk. How about cut down the compensation not to exceed $35.00 a day? Do a google on how much the legislature in different states get compensated and make a comparison.
  • As promised, here are the provisions of the constitution relating to amendments.

    ARTICLE XIV

    AMENDMENT

    Section 1. An amendment to this Constitution may be proposed by a constitutional convention, popular initiative, or the Legislature, as provided in this section.

    (a) At least every 10 years, the Legislature shall submit the following question to the voters: “Shall there be a convention to revise or amend the State Constitution?” If a majority of the votes cast upon this question is in the affirmative, a constitutional convention shall be convened within one year from the date of the vote, as prescribed by statute.

    (b) An amendment may be proposed by a petition signed by 25 percent of all registered voters.

    (c) An amendment may be proposed by the Legislature in the same manner required for passage of a bill, except that an amendment proposed by the Legislature is not subject to veto.

    Section 2. A proposed amendment shall become effective if approved at the next general election by a majority of the votes cast on that amendment and if a majority of the registered voters have cast votes on the amendment.

    Since the MOU requires that the Legislature act to convert itself into a unicameral body, it would appear that the best (and probably only) way to do this is by an amendment passed by the Legislature. Ask yourselfs, what is the chances of that?

    Download, pwipwi, thanks for the nice words. The compensation provisions total about $23,500 for 90 days in session, including VERIFIABLE expenses not to exceed $10,000. Since the current salary is in excess of that amount, and since the Legislators have historically voted themselves "representation" funds and "committee expense" funds and "special project" money of $30,000 to $60,000 a year, $23,500 would save Chuuk citizens at least $1.2 MILLION per year!
  • Seram Chuuk,

    I agree that candidates should have some kind of understanding of Chuuk's political situation before they can become candidates for the legislature. However, residency requirement as you mentioned above, in my humble opinion, maybe outdated especially in this age of technological advancement, internet and other forms of media outlets which have been upgrading the flow of information to a speedy fashion- the global connectivity if you may. Chuuk will certainly benefit from those who can offer from both worlds. I also believe that there are many living in Chuuk who are struggling to understand the political affairs there.

    Chuukese by birth should be a qualification as that illustrates the inherent connection (being indigenous) to our beloved Chuuk state.

    Later Seram!
  • Lol,
    seem the word "HUMBLE" been abused in here frequently. That's bascially all I heard, humble this, humble that, and Humble us..lol
  • Now we're finally talking,thanks to you Sarem for enlightening those of us who were never educated about our constitution, and coudn't vote because we were barely out of our diapers. True, some of us may have mixed feelings about the length of residency as some of our people who've been away from home and looking from the outside in cannot be as realistic to the life and problems of our people at home. Sometimes, when we come back we believe we can solve the problems easily since we have been educated more, learned and lived the work ethics in the fast lanes, but then when we meet up with the folks in the islands, it isn't that easy as we thought. A lot of our good people too have left home to look for greener pastures and could do a lot in helping us--while some look down on the islands and the people left behind as less or second class citizens--these we have to watch out for and please don't bother to come back.. What we should do first and foremost is to get down and select the true ones to who can do a thourough education and public awareness of the system and the need to make changes, grouping them down from children to youth, women and men, etc. Once they learn from A to Z, they will be able to make better judgement and decision for our lives instead of just buying
    whatever they are fed and handed out to them during campaign time. Next and even more urgent is to start giving some kind of a Past to Current Personality/ IQ/Education and Background Check even Drug and HIV Test beside an Entrance Exam for those running for office an position in the government. This should include information or knowledge on basic to complex LEADERSHIP. It's only fair, after all schools, job hiring, driver license all go thru some kind of screening, or test, even birth certificates,etc. to prove their authenticity, why should those running our welfare and lives get away easy? I bet many of those in office now might not pass like many a teachers who didn't pass their test last summer after teaching all these years and we end up blaming the poor students for being dumb. For another good result, this would eliminate a lot of the problems between people-families, region, and candidates during election time, and there will be peace in paradise again, true leadership and democracy for the Chuukese. Thank you Sarem--or Asarama? I will vote for you, that is you have to pass the Overall Exam first, haa.
    even Drug and HIV Test beside some kind of an Entrace Exam. If the school system,
    hiring for a job, birth certificate, passports, affidavits, church leaders and other positions require proofs of validity, why should the political positions be so easy for just anyone to run when it involves the welfare and life of our people. I believe this will not eliminate the problem of putting in the wrong leaders, but will help lessen the problems between the people esp. blood families, and regions when it comes to campaign and voting time. The past and current personality test should
    include an informed leadership test or somekind of heavy interview by professionals
    not just a task force who would be connected one way or another to the candidates.
  • Interesting.

    Just a small thought...

    The issue of "population configuration " here is not addressed as much as "regional equality". The amendments address the latter, but the result is that Representative District 1 ends up with the same number of representatives as say...Representative District 13. The populations in the former is much higher than that in the second district, yet they're both represented by only one 2-year representative.

    I'm not familiar with the population counts of each district, but I think there should be some thought in making it so that each district is fairly represented in proportion with its population. To offset this, further amendments to Section 8 can be made.
  • Your point is well taken, but as you admit uniformed. It is good to criticize, but if you are "not familiar with the population counts of each district," what is your criticism based on? Speculation, perhaps?

    The draft was prepared based upon the original constitution, which, I would hope to presume, took the "population counts" into consideration. If not, then perhaps you could look into the populations of each district, to see if there is some balance.

    The small picture is enticing. But sometimes it is necessary to see the big picture. If the goal is a unicameral legislature, shouldn't the focus be on that. If we focus on the eye of a flea, do we not miss the dog?
  • sarem chuuk

    according to philosophical cases, a change in the constitution would be mean the lifetime of a nation of chaos...just change one word and you will end up changing the thing all over again from time to time which will result into something not good..believe me...
  • Jay,

    My Son, you're so full of shit! What philosophical cases? You need to get out of your room and try to get late for crying out loud!! Perhaps you'll see things more the way they really are. Even jerking off will do you some good!!
  • Yes, Yes. I don't presume to know everything about anything. My comment was based entirely on speculation.

    I agree with you that the drafters of the original constitution had the population count in mind when designing the whole "Chunapan Ennuk." This is evident because the Northern Namoneas region ended up with 5 chosen representatives, Southern Namoneas and Faichuuk with 7, the Mortlocks region with 6, and the Northwest Region with 3. From this, one can conclude with confidence that the number of representatives chosen for each region of the state was largely based on the population counts of each district at that time. From this perspective, there is no regional equality but more consideration on the population configuration of the state. The matter of regional equality, as far as the framers were concerned, was addressed with the idea of the "Senatorial Region."

    The amendments above are very good ones. They downsize the legislative body and make it more efficient. That's a good direction to follow. I was merely making a suggestion. And as you put it, I am "uninformed" so am unqualified to provide substantive criticisms.

    Oh, and do you by any chance know what the most current census report is for the state? Just curious to know because I don't think the population counts for the era when the constitution was first drafted are any more accurate. Migration patterns and population growth for each of the districts are different across the board, and it's important to factor those differences in along with the population count.

    Anyway, I have no problems with the proposed amendments. You seemed a bit defensive when I made those earlier comments. Don't worry. I have no intent to criticize or downgrade the things you've presented.
  • Hey, Sarem, don't be dissuade by all the supposedly constructive criticism. Hold ur head up--at least, u have one on ur shoulder to start out with something the leaders, former leaders and know-it all didn't even think of or bother to come up with. As for the distribution of population etc. etc. if we can be just truthful and honest for once without trying to make up #s to get more funding etc. etc. even the census count if you could participate in how it is set up, you'll find that the results are not accurate and each region try to get out and away from the true numbers. Take Weno for instance--most of the Mortlockese and outer islanders are living in Weno, left and right, needless to point out the lagoon islanders--it's no wonder why it looks like it is today. When it comes to sharing and making up for the population that is more than burderning to Weno, the census did not and will not put the correct numbers of people living on those islands, afraid of decreased funds to each. Voting-wise, you know from day one how we even dig up dead people from years back to vote from the graves. Now with the migration you can't account for that--go to the Statistics Office--they don't even have pencils and papers to work with--you think the computer with so many black outs will print out the truth in numbers? Let's keep adding, dividing, and subtracting the odds for the benefit of our people--we will get there, fair and true.
  • Sarem:

    Greetings to you. As you well implied, this is all the work of our Chuukese people but not lil ole you. Still I give you my words of admiration. It takes gutts and true leadership to come out on this forum and give out a clean plate of what you are. Yes, I believed that you are backed with more true leaders behind you and that is what we definitely need(ed) in Chuuk.

    Anyhow, as our other friend "re2look" or is it "ReTunnuk" said in his post, do not be dissuade by any of our know-it-all forumers, plain ole constructive criticism: yeah, that's fine. For us frequent forumers, is a great chance to exchange our ideas with you.

    My only other question that also reflect to what re2look was saying, is how do we determine the "Wenoese" from other lagooners? Or as it comes down to voting from each district, how accurate and truthful are we for who are the original people from each district(s) and how do we eliminate the odds? As per past problems with voting, voters from other districts living on Weno are a major cluster flunk. These are just to name a few, but surely you might enlighten us with a clear vision.

    Cheerz,
    Chris
  • Sorry, Chris-you guessed wrong--look with 2 eyes and u'll see more, u know like they say 2 hands u'll do more, 2 legs'll get u there faster-but u can't do as much with the other two if we're blind and narrow minded--that's what my great grandpa from the outer islands told me. Now u're right there about Weno so scrambled up and tossed around like scrambled eggs over tossed green salad. How about starting from the bottom up or a to z. We can't go for origin as we all come originally from Weno in the first place, now we're all going back and using Weno one way or the other-perhaps. Perhaps, if we impose some kind of loyalty or commitment on all living on Weno--u know like how the businesses have to pay a license to Weno to make money there, and yet all of us are making our livelihood one way or another and won't even lift a finger to clean our front yard, making Weno looking like a dump. If we impose some kind of a small fee or tax(popon-mokur) for us all--for those who can't pay, they must do some community or island commitment, thus giving the people a choice of residency or where to vote from. Help, somebody--I'm sure we can come up with something fair and just. We'll just have to find a way to beat the fake paper work and island ways of tricking each other to advance one's own interest and we'll be okay again. Like plain arithmetic--one plus one will always be 20, I mean 2--a woman and a man makes a couple, produce children, 2 hands, 2 kidneys, 2 heads better than 1, 2 eyes-2 to look and find better but unfortunately, like the Bible says--take one eyes out or cut the other hand if it gives u evil and now it's time to take out one of the 2 Houses if it's killing our economy and breeding greed, poverty, deceit, etc. etc. If the lieutenant position is not as needed, cut it out too, and if 4 years term to the Senate, 8 years term to the Executive, and a forever 2 years term to the Rep House and the Judicial position breeds individual and society germs, longterm illnesses, unhealthy souls and setbacks-- let's all help each other out with a heart to reconcile the differences, the courage to change what is not right- to forgive and forget past mistakes and sins, to make up those of us who hurt others and Chuuk will be healed. I for one have never put down Chuuk, no matter how low we've gone in the eyes of the world. I believe in the kind of heart that our people have--we just have to take the right exercise, diet and medicine and there will be less heart attack, high blood pressure, and the saddest of all--ask yourself what or which?!
  • Head, Shoulders, knees, & toes. God is the supreme power, ppl. are mere mortals. Depending on the surrounding, some ppl. are clouded w/ their greeds for power & wealth that their moral judgement could easily be altered - Their echo take them higher than average that soon they find themselves befriending the clouds -

    When all really matters is ppl. helping ppl. Before any form of government - there is the simple faith that unifies cultures to create a nation. What is worth more? the Envied fame or the lasting friendship?

    We have gone thru several changes, but so far the basic still stands out as the best. The basic is: Be truthful to our true identity as fellow islanders: be humble, loving, & caring. Respect the accomplishment of yesterdays, and welcome the new ideas of tomorrow. Meanwhile don't really forget what mold & forged us as a Nation from the very beginning.
  • I must an epitomy of what a true ignoramus is because I don't know what the hell you guys talking about. If I do, I could be joining the others in singing the praises of that one person. Yikes!
  • Angelina agnel,

    may I borrow your Latin Dictionary?
  • Saram chuuk,

    Unicameral would be best thing for Chuuk. Nebreaska is the only state in U.S with a single house legislature. The advantage is things get done more quickly and there is less duplication. Single house good for small state like Chuuk or even PNI and others. I would suggest you write to Nebraska---I'm sure they have mucho gande material on the subject.

    Amsuano tipisin Nipwakinganwen ei inis.
    Anean epwe dameoch me netipom.
    Nuzz
  • Socrates,

    Do you believe in LoaTzu?

    Nuzz
  • re2look:

    Greetings to you. Sorry if I mis-quoted your family history, but that wasn't my intention. Atleast, we have something in common with our grands, but one very important factor (interest) in Weno or Chuuk, itself. I agree and like your analogy of how we should tax (per head), for all those who are in business(es) and should be able to pay the Weno Municipality not just to the Chuuk State. A simple suggestion, if the Weno Municipality should tax the Lagooners with their boats, docking fees? The Weno Municipality should impliment a (tolling fee) maybe it might eliminate or funded this littering problem. But who knows, as where the money ends up? As per sources said: the (tax) money are the Chuuk States gamble-money, sort of speak. Somehow, maybe someone with such influence should talk with the governor/lt gov. and mayor: and try to work together or come up with a plan? It is definetely overdue on their behalf. It is so absurd and shameful the way our island, Weno stands right now!

    I'll stop here for now since it's a re-run of a broken chikongki of mine and it's not going anywhere but always landed on top of this forum. It's been nice exchanging ideas with you, and you have a very nice day.

    Cheers,
    Chris
  • chikongki,
    wow........trip down old memeory lane.
    ke pwal echemato ekewe fansoun ukan fakkun retin kaeo ngeni pekin tiwis...lol
    nupwan ai wenen esuseling ngeni ewe kan datan "CHIKONGKI" uwa kan mefi ai wenen pa'ta pun itak ukan urra nge uwa kan wenen sine tiwis.
    lol....mwa met, ena christ nge uwa mochen fen eniwinato ekewe years pun uwa mefi nge uwa wenen angeoch non pekin tiwis ngeni Chikongki.
    lol.....anean fiti kechiwe epwe kan masies fan mesemi chon angeoch ne poruk me won na fonu Merika.
    Uwa ka fakku pekus ai mojen sinei ekan rap me sokopatan porukun ikena....uwa pekus ren ei porukun New Gunea chok every day.

    tong ennet ngonuk Christ.
    Cyna Nuzzmwan
  • Greetings Nuzzmwan:
    lols@chikongki.reminisce.waiow.ne

    Kapong ngonuk chienach forumers. Well, I'm glad to know that we all can go down our memory lane and reminisce ah? Ina mei pung pwan fakkun murinno omw kopwe chok ii twist it away, but not rap it away. I guess I'm too young to get into the "rapping" but I could only do the two: Ekis kaitiw, ekis kaita, e tutunu emesefich a pwan tutunuetiw, anekoshi anekinekitw.

    By the way Nuzz, it's Chris please! Not Christ! I don't want the big man up there to strike a lightning force on my head. Iwe, iwe pwan nice exchanging memories with you. It kinda take me back to the old rugged roads of Nantaku.

    Cheers,
    Chris
  • Oh ne, kan amusano.
    tipei chok nge Christ as in Chrostopher or Christoph. Amusano ren kan ach fakkun Nipwakingawen itechik.
    kote chok pwal surasini, sia kan odotiw. lol
    iwe chuesi chuesi nge serespwethe chok.
    kapong ennet.
    Cyna
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