Any update on the Mueller investigation into Russian meddling in 2016?

Whats the latest news? The internet is slow here in Chuuk. It takes 10 minutes to buffer a video and up to 3 minutes to upload a link. Any new development on this?


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    Well the last update was 2 months ago. Manafort got busted for not paying taxes and Cohen was busted for paying a hooker. woohoo they got him. Jokes aside. Still samething. Which is nothing. No corroborating evidence[s] have been found to link Trump or his campaign to the allegation of collusion. Mueller is at the last stages of his investigation and he and his team are probably writing their concluding report. A report that we and the public won't see for years.

  • How is the Manafort and Cohen thing not connected to Trumps campaign?
  • Its not. Manafort's case is not directly linked to the Trump campaign. If it was It would have brought down Trump a long time ago when it was first announced. The GOP would have sided with the Democrats and moved to impeached Trump and would have voted with the Democrats not against them like they did the 2 times democrats brought up the impeachment vote in the house of representatives. Manafort's case is about tax evasion. Related to his work in Ukraine back in 2012-2014. As for Cohen well is also about tax evasion and paying off a hooker. Again not related to the Mandate that Mueller got. Which was to look for any evidence of collusion with Russia to hack The DNC emails.

    This all started because the hacking of the DNCs email/Computer/database. And at the moment the Mueller team has not found anything.
  • shhhhs lets not tell these NPC about the outcome.
  • Who cares? Nothing will happen...image
  • The full list of known indictments and plea deals in Mueller’s probe so far

    1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was arrested in July 2017 and pleaded guilty last October to making false statements to the FBI. He got a 14-day sentence.

    2) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team, related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances. He had two trials scheduled, and the first ended in a conviction on eight counts of financial crimes. To avert the second trial, Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018.

    3) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

    4) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty last December to making false statements to the FBI.

    5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

    21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October.

    22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.

    23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case this year.

    24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.

  • Former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort has agreed to cooperate with Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible collusion with President Donald Trump’s campaign.

    After a jury found Manafort guilty on eight federal felony charges in August — including five tax fraud charges, two bank fraud charges, and one charge of hiding foreign bank accounts, related to his work for pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine — he struck a plea deal with Mueller to avoid a second trial on a separate set of charges.

    He will now “fully cooperate” with the government’s investigation — and this development could be earth-shaking for Trump. It’s unclear what Manafort might know about collusion or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, but he was involved in the infamous Trump Tower meeting in June 2016. He also had some suspicious contacts with Russian nationals while serving as campaign chair.
  • FM, could you include the close associates of Trump who either received immunity for cooperating (at least 2 but I am bad with names), and those who have pled to crimes outside of the Mueller mandate but are cooperating?
  • Mueller's team is not leaking inside information about their investigation. Most observers expect there will be more court filings revealed after the November 6 election.

    Here is this week's update:

    Mueller assembles team of cooperators in Russian probe

  • This is from that article FM posted.

    "After a jury found Manafort guilty on eight federal felony charges in August — including five tax fraud charges, two bank fraud charges, and one charge of hiding foreign bank accounts, related to his work for pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine — he struck a plea deal with Mueller to avoid a second trial on a separate set of charges."
  • All those cases FactsMatters listed are and were not directly involved with the Trump campaign. A egg has 3 parts. The outside shell, the egg white and the Yellow core. These people listed by FactsMatters were the outer shell. Papadopoulos never had a one on one meeting wiith Trump. He was not too important to warrant it.

    And remember if these people who got indicted by Mueller were so damaging they would have brought down The Trump presidency a long time ago. They haven't.

    And Muellers report will be coming out after the midterms and democrats have already abandoned it as a avenue of approach to take down Trump. They are now refocusing their attention to take out Trump via his tax record. And Muellers report won't be made public for years to come.
  • Why won't the report be made public?
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    Because it will put some intelligence assests at risk. By assets i meant people and systems and methods used to acquire the informations Mueller used in his probe. The FBI and CIA and other intelligence agencies will go to great lengths to protect these assests. These same agencies will recommend to the Senate and President not to make the report public. An example of these assests was used to gather information on those russians whom Mueller indicted . Those assests are still being used and even the democrats won't dare push to release the report to be made public.
  • Because the investigation isn't over yet, and you already come to a conclusion like you konw it all? give me a break!
  • No its standard operating procedure to restrict sensative informations and assests from being made public. And the investigation are are coming to an end. 3 members of the special counsel team have left and return to their ordinary jobs. Mueller is at the stage where he is compiling his report. Only the Senate intelligence committee will ever see the report in its entirety along with the Debuty Attorney General and members of the national security team and national command authority/Trump.

    So far nothing has implicated Trump and his campaign. Nothing. Trump also has already launched his 2020 campaign for reelection. That says a lot.
  • I don't think Mueller will be the end of trump. Either his own team oust him through the 25th ammendment or he dies unexpectedly. Its the only way he will leave the Whitehouse or not run again in 2020. And right now many polls after polls shows that people believe He will win again in 2020.

    Stop giving him free press is what i say. 24/7 coverage does not hurt him it helps him. That is why i stopped sharing his news on my Facebook and Twitter. I urge all of you to do the same. It will only help him.
  • This is the World, the World that is always against anything that is good. Folks that do good are always attacked ridiculed and the best ones are taken down. President Trump is doing so good that almost everyone that is part of this World is against him. I support him from the start and pray that he completes his term and bring good to all of us. God Bless the us, God Bless the USA and God Bless the President of the United States of America.
  • Yes, "folks that do good" this billionaire landlord who brags about shooting someone and getting away with it. image
  • And calls refugee families from Mexico "rapists." image
  • And immigrants from poor countries. image
  • Anyone that wants to enter into any Country must enter through the legal process and enter legally. Just like anyone coming into my small piece of land must be permitted to enter if they are not permitted, they must face consequences. Anyone entering into the others house without permission must be dealt with accordingly.
  • Like the first white Europeans who entered America illegally and took the land away from the native inhabitants? Or is it only illegal for brown poor people seeking a better life?
  • That "Shooting comment" was hypothetical. And he is right, Majority of the drugs in the US are from Mexico. Majority of the crimes committed in sanctuary cities are from illegals from mexico.

    And The natives used to killed and invade each other's land and kill each other over better hunting grounds. And history tells us that the weaker people get conquered and their land get took over by stronger people. Modern humans is a great example of that. We wiped out the other human species like the Neanderthal and they the ones before them. Its how nature works.

    The Russians took over Native lands too in their far east and no one says anything. Samething with the Japanese who took over japan from the natives and same thing with the han chinese who took over taiwan from the native taiwanese. Yet no one says anything. The liberal arguement that The US took stole lands from the natives is stupid. Everyone took shit from someone since the beginning of time.
  • And oalong is right. There is the right way of entering america and there is the illegal way. And the illegal way is a felony. We have laws because we are a nation of laws. The only thing that separate humans from animals is laws.

    Anyways back to the discussion.


    Politico-Mueller report PSA: Prepare for disappointment
    And be forewarned that the special counsel’s findings may never be made public.


    By DARREN SAMUELSOHN 10/19/2018 05:20 AM EDT

    President Donald Trump's critics have spent the past 17 months anticipating what some expect will be among the most thrilling events of their lives: special counsel Robert Mueller’s final report on Russian 2016 election interference.

    They may be in for a disappointment

    That’s the word POLITICO got from defense lawyers working on the Russia probe and more than 15 former government officials with investigation experience spanning Watergate to the 2016 election case. The public, they say, shouldn’t expect a comprehensive and presidency-wrecking account of Kremlin meddling and alleged obstruction of justice by Trump — not to mention an explanation of the myriad subplots that have bedeviled lawmakers, journalists and amateur Mueller sleuths.

    Perhaps most unsatisfying: Mueller’s findings may never even see the light of day.

    “That’s just the way this works,” said John Q. Barrett, a former associate counsel who worked under independent counsel Lawrence Walsh during the Reagan-era investigation into secret U.S. arms sales to Iran. “Mueller is a criminal investigator. He’s not government oversight, and he’s not a historian.”

    All of this may sound like a buzzkill after two years of intense news coverage depicting a potential conspiracy between the Kremlin and Trump’s campaign, plus the scores of tweets from the White House condemning the Mueller probe as a “witch hunt.”

    But government investigation experts are waving a giant yellow caution flag now to warn that Mueller’s no-comment mantra is unlikely to give way to a tell-all final report and an accompanying blitz of media interviews and public testimony on Capitol Hill.

    “He won’t be a good witness,” said Paul Rosenzweig, a former senior counsel to independent counsel Kenneth Starr now working as a senior fellow at the nonprofit R Street Institute. “His answers will be, ‘yes’, ‘no’ and ‘maybe.’”

    For starters, Mueller isn’t operating under the same ground rules as past high-profile government probes, including the Reagan-era investigation into Iranian arms sale and whether President Bill Clinton lied during a deposition about his extramarital affair with a White House intern. Those examinations worked under the guidelines of a post-Watergate law that expired in 1999 that required investigators to submit findings to Congress if they found impeachable offenses, a mandate that led to Starr’s salacious report that upended Clinton’s second term.

    Mueller’s reporting mandate is much different. He must notify his Justice Department supervisor — currently Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein — on his budgeting needs and all “significant events” made by his office, including indictments, guilty pleas and subpoenas.

  • 2nd-part
    When Mueller is finished, he must turn in a “confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions” — essentially why he chose to bring charges against some people but not others. His reasoning, according to veterans of such investigations, could be as simple as “there wasn’t enough evidence” to support a winning court case.

    Then, it will be up to DOJ leaders to make the politically turbo-charged decision of whether to make Mueller’s report public.

    Government officials will first get a chance to scrub the special counsel’s findings for classified details, though, involving everything from foreign intelligence sources to information gleaned during grand jury testimony that the law forbids the government from disclosing.

    They’ll also have to weigh the input from a number of powerful outside forces.

    The White House, for one, has indicated it might try to butt into the proceedings. Trump personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani said earlier this summer that the White House had reserved the right to block the release of information in Mueller’s final report that might be covered through executive privilege. It’s unclear how salient that legal argument may be, but the president’s attorneys have been saying for months that a White House signoff will be needed because the Justice Department also falls inside the executive branch.

    Congress is also primed to have a say. While Democratic leaders are hoping a return to power in the upcoming November midterms could grant them subpoena power to pry as much information as possible from the special counsel’s office, Republicans might try to restrict the release of certain details that might embarrass the president.

    As for the crafting of the report itself, Mueller has significant leeway. He can theoretically be as expansive as he wants. But sources who have worked closely with Mueller during his lengthy career at the Justice Department say his by-the-books, conservative style is likely to win out, suggesting he might lean more toward saying less than more.

    “It’s such a unique situation. He knows there are a lot of questions he needs to address for the sake of trying to satisfy a wide variety of interests and expectations,” said Paul McNulty, a former deputy attorney general from the George W. Bush administration who worked closely with Mueller at the Justice Department.

  • 3rd-part
    Mueller’s report will be landing in the shadow of former FBI Director James Comey’s controversial decision to publicly explain his reasons for not prosecuting then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email server during her time as secretary of state. The move was widely panned as a breach of DOJ protocol.

    “That’s not Bob Mueller’s approach,” McNulty explained. “I’d be surprised if he did that in written form. I think he’s about, ‘Where are the facts before us?’”

    The timing on the Mueller investigation final report — the special counsel's office declined comment for this report — remains unclear. While he’s under no deadline to complete his work, several sources tracking the investigation say the special counsel and his team appear eager to wrap up. “I’m sure he’s determined to get back to the rest of his life,” said Barrett, the Iran-Contra investigator who is now a law professor at St. John's University.

    But several factors may still slow things down, including a potential protracted legal showdown over whether to force the president into a sit-down interview and what to do with leads that stem from the ongoing cooperation of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former Trump personal lawyer Michael Cohen. Both men pleaded guilty this summer.

    Longtime Trump confidante Roger Stone has also said he’s prepared for an indictment in the Mueller probe, which would kick-start an entirely new trial process.

    “When your investigation is ongoing, it’s hard to write a final report,” said Michael Zeldin, a former Mueller aide who served as a deputy independent counsel in the investigation into George H.W. Bush administration officials fingered for accessing Clinton’s passport files during the 1992 presidential campaign.

    Indeed, history offers a mixed bag on what to expect from Mueller’s end game. Several independent counsel investigations have concluded their work without any report at all, including the George W. Bush-era probe into who leaked the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson.

    And the two biggest cases since Watergate have been broken up into bite-sized pieces, with interim reports dribbled out while the wider probes continued. The Iran-Contra investigation published intermittent findings on procedural issues, such as how Congress granting immunity for testimony would impair criminal prosecution. The entire probe, however, lasted more than seven years, with a final report issued in August 1993, long after Reagan was out of the White House.

    Clinton’s White House dealt with a series of independent counsel investigations, but none as troublesome as the one that started in January 1994 into the first family’s decades-old Whitewater land deals in Arkansas. The probe took multiple twists and expanded to cover several other topics. In 1997, Starr issued a report, affirming Clinton White House deputy counsel Vincent Foster had committed suicide. A year later, he published a report detailing allegations of illegal behavior tied to Clinton’s affair with Lewinsky, which prompted the House to open impeachment proceedings.

    A final report on Whitewater didn’t arrive until March 2002, more than eight years after the probe started and more than a year after the Democrat’s second term ended.

    All of that history isn’t lost on Mueller.

    “He knows how these Office of Special Counsel investigations can drag on,” said McNulty, now president of Grove City College in western Pennsylvania. “He’s seen all that over the course of his career. I just know he’s the kind of person who’s decisive and if he thought that there was a way to not drag something out because it could be addressed appropriately, he’d have the determination to do that. He’s also not going to cut some corner just to be done.”

    Past investigators have also struggled with how to handle the public release of their independent counsel reports.

    In 2000, a nearly two-year investigation into Clinton Labor Secretary Alexis Herman ended with a one-sentence statement clearing her of influence peddling charges. Independent counsel Ralph Lancaster’s final report was placed under a federal court seal and he opted not to ask for permission to publicize it.

    “I had decided not to exercise my prosecutorial discretion to indict her and I didn’t see any sense in making it worse,” Lancaster said in a 2005 interview with “The press has never picked up on it. Nobody has asked to see it … which is fine by me.”

    Patrick Fitzgerald, the independent counsel in the Plame investigation, was under no obligation to write a report because of the specific guidelines behind his appointment. Testifying before Congress as his probe was ending, Fitzgerald defended the approach by noting that grand jury witnesses expect secrecy when they testify. He also noted that a 2007 public trial involving I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, a former top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney convicted for perjury, had revealed much of the investigation’s details.

    “I think people learned a fair amount about what we did,” Fitzgerald said. “They didn’t learn everything. But if you’re talking about a public report, that was not provided for, and I actually believe and I’ve said it before, I think that’s appropriate.”

    Mary McCord, a Georgetown University law professor and former DOJ official who helped oversee the FBI’s Russian meddling investigation before Mueller’s appointment, cautioned against heightened expectations around the special counsel’s final report.

    “Don’t overread any of these facts that are in the world to suggest a quick wrap-up and everyone is going to get a chance to read it the next day,” she said. “It will probably be detailed because this material is detailed, but I don’t know that it will all be made public.”

    Some of the central players in the Russia saga say they, too, have become resigned to not getting a complete set of answers out of Mueller’s work. “I assume there are going to be lots of details we’ll never learn, and lots of things that will never come to light,” said Robbie Mook, Clinton’s 2016 campaign manager.

    But Mook added that Mueller’s efforts can be deemed a “success” if he answers just a few questions. For example, Mook wants to know whether and how the Russian government infiltrated the Trump campaign to influence the election outcome. He wants to know whether there was an effort in the White House or in the president’s orbit to cover up what happened.

    “This is about big problems, not about small details,” he said. “I think we all need to step back and look at this less as a dramatic bit of intrigue and more as a real fundamental question of our national security.”
  • And now you all know why the democrats have now shifted their hopes and dream of removinf Trump from office via his tax return.

    They have lost hope in the investigations they started and now are writing Trump tax related stories in vain hope directing Mueller that route.

    its the desperate attemps of a desperate left wing politics movement that know that Trump will win again in 2020.
  • keep with the topic gentleman and don't stray from it.

    Will Mueller delve into the Trumps tax record?
  • That will require Mueller to step outside of his marching order-Mandate. Its a conspiracy within a conspiracy that Trumps tax record will show connection to Russia. Thats what democrats are pushing for at the moment. They say him paying little tax is sign of collusion. LMFAO. All them fat cats in washinton use the same tax laws Trump used to pay little tax. From Bernie to Hillary to Obama.
  • How legal is an investigation based on a fake dossier paid by an opposing political party? Shouldn't this case be dismissed by the scammed FISA court?
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