What DAY of a week is Sabbath Day?

edited April 2009 in Religion
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  • Sabbath day is Saturday, Sunday is the Lord day. christian honor sunday instead of saturday nowadays for our Lord risen from the Death on the Sunday morning, it's why they called it The Lord Day.
  • Very true Pun, Sabath is Saturday, now if you live in the other side of the world then your Sabath is "back to the future".
    Nice movie btw.
  • "REMEMBER to keep the sabbath day HOLY".


    why are we forgetting the sabbath day and worship on sunday instead of saturday?
  • just like it says on the bible"seek and ye shall find"..meaning to say that EXODUS 20:8-11 thus briefs it out so clear...so saturday(which is the seventh day)is the sabbath of the lord.
  • look at the sun in the morning and you will see the big letters " sabatth day today" then lets all bow down and worship God.
    but ofcourse it doesnt work this way.
  • The "Sabbath" does not concern Christians. It was meant for the Judaism religion (Jews) and not binding on Christians. Chrisitans have nothing to do with the “Sabbath”. Some religious organizations (Seventh-Day Adventists, Seventh-Day Baptists, and certain others) claim that Christians must not worship on Sunday but on Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath. They claim that, at some unnamed time after the apostolic age, the Catholic Church "changed" the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday.

    However, when Christianity began, Jesus’ disciples usually gathered in locked and hidden rooms scared of the Jews and Roman soldiers and other non-believers of Jesus. They were a disgrace to the Jewish religion. So they could no longer be part of the Jewish religion and could not gather to worship on the Jewish Sabbath (Saturday) either. However, Jesus usually appeared to them on the first days of the week (Dominica) or Sunday in which had marked the beginning of their gathering day to break bread and to give thanks to the Lord (mass). This day was known to them as the Lord’s Day (Dominica).

    Passages of Scripture such as Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, Colossians 2:16-17, and Revelation 1:10 indicate that, even during New Testament times with the Apostles and first Christians, the Sabbath is no longer binding and that Christians are to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, instead.

    The early Church Fathers compared the observance of the Sabbath to the observance of the rite of circumcision, and from that they demonstrated that if the apostles abolished circumcision (Gal. 5:1-6), so also the observance of the Sabbath must have been abolished. The following quotations show that the first Christians understood this principle and gathered for worship on Sunday.

    The Didache (didache apostolon) or the “Doctrine of the Apostles of Acts 2:42”

    "...But every Lord’s day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned" (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).

    The Letter of Barnabas

    "...We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (Letter of Barnabas 15:6–8 [A.D. 74]).

    Ignatius of Antioch

    "...Those who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e. Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death" (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).

    Justin Martyr

    "...We too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined [on] you—namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your heart. . . . [H]ow is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us—I speak of fleshly circumcision and Sabbaths and feasts? . . . God enjoined you to keep the Sabbath, and imposed on you other precepts for a sign, as I have already said, on account of your unrighteousness and that of your fathers . . ." (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 18, 21 [A.D. 155]). .."But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead" (First Apology 67 [A.D. 155]).

    Tertullian

    "...Let him who contends that the Sabbath is still to be observed as a balm of salvation, and circumcision on the eighth day . . . teach us that, for the time past, righteous men kept the Sabbath or practiced circumcision, and were thus rendered ‘friends of God.’ For if circumcision purges a man, since God made Adam uncircumcised, why did he not circumcise him, even after his sinning, if circumcision purges? . . . Therefore, since God originated Adam uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, consequently his offspring also, Abel, offering him sacrifices, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, was by him [God] commended [Gen. 4:1–7, Heb. 11:4]. . . . Noah also, uncircumcised—yes, and unobservant of the Sabbath—God freed from the deluge. For Enoch too, most righteous man, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, he translated from this world, who did not first taste death in order that, being a candidate for eternal life, he might show us that we also may, without the burden of the law of Moses, please God" (An Answer to the Jews 2 [A.D. 203]).

    The Didascalia

    "...The apostles further appointed: On the first day of the week let there be service, and the reading of the holy scriptures, and the oblation [sacrifice of the Mass], because on the first day of the week [i.e., Sunday] our Lord rose from the place of the dead, and on the first day of the week he arose upon the world, and on the first day of the week he ascended up to heaven, and on the first day of the week he will appear at last with the angels of heaven" (Didascalia 2 [A.D. 225]).

    Origen

    "...Hence it is not possible that the [day of] rest after the Sabbath should have come into existence from the seventh [day] of our God. On the contrary, it is our Savior who, after the pattern of his own rest, caused us to be made in the likeness of his death, and hence also of his resurrection" (Commentary on John 2:28 [A.D. 229]).

    Eusebius of Caesarea

    "They [the early saints of the Old Testament] did not care about circumcision of the body, neither do we [Christians]. They did not care about observing Sabbaths, nor do we. They did not avoid certain kinds of food, neither did they regard the other distinctions which Moses first delivered to their posterity to be observed as symbols; nor do Christians of the present day do such things" (Church History 1:4:8 [A.D. 312]). ..."The day of his [Christ’s] light . . . was the day of his resurrection from the dead, which they say, as being the one and only truly holy day and the Lord’s day, is better than any number of days as we ordinarily understand them, and better than the days set apart by the Mosaic law for feasts, new moons, and Sabbaths, which the apostle [Paul] teaches are the shadow of days and not days in reality" (Proof of the Gospel 4:16:186 [A.D. 319]).

    Athanasius

    "...The Sabbath was the end of the first creation, the Lord’s day was the beginning of the second, in which he renewed and restored the old in the same way as he prescribed that they should formerly observe the Sabbath as a memorial of the end of the first things, so we honor the Lord’s day as being the memorial of the new creation" (On Sabbath and Circumcision 3 [A.D. 345]).

    Cyril of Jerusalem

    "...Fall not away either into the sect of the Samaritans or into Judaism, for Jesus Christ has henceforth ransomed you. Stand aloof from all observance of Sabbaths and from calling any indifferent meats common or unclean" (Catechetical Lectures 4:37 [A.D. 350]).

    Council of Laodicea

    "...Christians should not Judaize and should not be idle on the Sabbath, but should work on that day; they should, however, particularly reverence the Lord’s day and, if possible, not work on it, because they were Christians" (Canon 29 [A.D. 360]).

    The Apostolic Constitutions

    "...And on the day of our Lord’s resurrection, which is the Lord’s day, meet more diligently, sending praise to God that made the universe by Jesus, and sent him to us, and condescended to let him suffer, and raised him from the dead. Otherwise what apology will he make to God who does not assemble on that day . . . in which is performed the reading of the prophets, the preaching of the gospel, the oblation of the sacrifice, the gift of the holy food" (Apostolic Constitutions 2:7:60 [A.D. 400]).

    Augustine

    "...Well, now, I should like to be told what there is in these ten commandments, except the observance of the Sabbath, which ought not to be kept by a Christian. . . . Which of these commandments would anyone say that the Christian ought not to keep? It is possible to contend that it is not the law which was written on those two tables that the apostle [Paul] describes as ‘the letter that kills’ [2 Cor. 3:6], but the law of circumcision and the other sacred rites which are now abolished" (The Spirit and the Letter 24 [A.D. 412]).



    God Bless

    Pastor Ted
  • Considering that it says "Day"..it doesnt actually specify the time....so......how would it add up to you folks if the Sabbath was observed starting on Saturday evening approximately 18:00hrs and ends on the next day (Sunday) at the same time?

    I dunno....just as in the dark as the rest.
  • Pastor Ted,

    Your writings are absolute must. You just present the facts as it is. It is an opportunity and a privilege to share with you. You are a great man of God.

    I went on the internet the other day, and I read everything to do with the Sabbath day. The conclusion that I came up with is that the Sabbath day was never abolished by Jesus Christ In fact, he says in the scriptures that the Sabbath “was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.”

    That is very interesting, because he didn’t say, the “Sabbath was made for the Jewish race” per say. Instead, he said it was made for man, meaning all men from all races, here on earth are suppose to observe the Sabbath day.

    Paul the great missionary to the gentiles at that time I believe never told the early Christians not to observe the Sabbath. If he discussed the Sabbath day with them, it has something to do with the Jewish teachers of the law adding about 60 plus or more rules to the Sabbath day itself. With these rules, Paul I think told them not to pay attention to otherwise, observe the Sabbath as a Holy Day as God commands.
  • then ofcourse we may ask, " when did we human beings start our dating system?
  • Is this the starting point or just another continuing posts for the same threat on which day of true worship Saturday or Sunday?

    Pastor Ten, you seem to be an intellegent person but I hope you could be of more with open mind when studying the bible. Like me, I continue to search and read the scripture if I don't understand and would like to learn the trueth but not to hang on to the former understanding otherwise it will be a waste of time searching the holy bible. Sabbath is one of the precepts in the Ten Commandment. But, the question you should have asked was "Where it is written right after the Creation God commanded man to worship on the Sabbath instead of trying to cover up that Sabbath was made separately from the other six days and was blessed and sanctified by the Creator for the greatness of His creations.
  • Guys, how many times are we going to discussed this issue. I believe everyone has already known what Sabbath meant. Which is stand for the number seven(7) isn't it? That's the day that the Lord rested from his creations of this earth and want people to keep that day holy as well. What does it really matters that make everyone in here so confused of?
  • Funny this thread is still buried in here. If I remember correctly, there were hundreds and hundreds of comments on this a few years ago... much from Pastor Ted.

    Here is something to consider though: 

    Search the entire OT and NT and you won't find any shred of evidence THAT THERE WAS A NEW COMMAND making holy Sunday as the new Sabbath... the 7th. Eight specific verses in the NT, many Christians cite in support of the change. But NONE of them actually say (as it does in Gen 2:2-3 and Exo 20:8-11)... that God has changed His Sabbath day!!!

    Many church leaders in majority of the denominations admit there remains a Sabbath rest... Heb 4.

    My question though are these: 

    Sabbath was mentioned... we were commanded to keep Sabbath...  in creation week (Gen 2:2-3), on Mt. Sinai (Exo 20:8-11, Exo 31:14) and in many different places in the OT. Jesus kept the Sabbath (Lk 4:16) on earth. He also told the Jews they better hope they flee the destruction of the temple NOT on a Sabbath day (Matt 24:20)... meaning, the destruction of the temple took place AD 70 (way way after His death and heaven-bound) , still Jesus expected His followers to keep holy the Sabbath. Finally, in the new earth (Isa 66:22,23) Sabbath is going to be kept.

    Now, please tells me. Does it make sense to you that Sabbath was enforced in the OT... throughout.... also in the NT (Act 16, 17, 18), throughout. Then abolished during our time. And, finally, reinstated again in the New Earth?

    That's what most christians believe.

    Now, last question:

    Sabbath is part of the 10 Commandments (which many genuine people believe are done away with). Here is the twisted logic... if we follow this premise. 

    Is it now ok then for one of you to steal the other's wife? Or to kill their friends? How about if you steal their bank account? Or their ID online? Obviously, it's not.

    Why? Because it's still not okay to break God's Law... it's a sin. Sin is lawlessness (1 Jn 3:4). You get thrown in jail for that!

    James said we cannot break one commandment and keep the rest. If we do, we're guilty of breaking all of them! (Ja 2:10). 

    In essence, we cannot keep ONLY 9 commandments...

    It's PLAIN and pretty clear... straight from the Bible!


  • In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth.

    On the first day (Sunday), God said, "Let there be light" and there was light. God separated light from darkness. He was at work on that day.

    On the seventh day (Saturday) God rested. Genesis 2:3---  God Blessed the seventh day and making it Holy

    God's Commandments:

    Commandment #4: Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy


    Back to the creation. Which of the days of the week did God Blessed and made it Holy?

    God instill His commandments within each of us, in our minds which science terms refer to as "Consciousness". If we feel that we have sin, know that it's God's Commandments, the "Consciousness" He instilled in each of us makes us feel.
  • "Upon the first day of the week let everyone of you lay by him in store, as God hath proposed him, that there be no gathering when I come." (1 Corinthians 16:2) 
  • Pekalong,

    Do you understand what that verse is saying?

    That is Paul's letter to the Church in Corinth. 


    1 Corinthians 16:2New International Version (NIV)

    On the first day of every week,A)" data-cr="#cen-NIV-28779A" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; position: relative; vertical-align: top; top: 0px;"> each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.


    This verse doesn't say, "Pekalong, keep this day Holy".... instead, it told the people or the Church in Corinth that they should use that day (Sunday) to separate a sum of money.

  • After the ascension of Jesus Christ, the members of the church, whether Jews or Gentiles, kept holy the first day of the week (the Lords day) as a weekly commemoration of our Lord's resurrection (Act. 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2; Revelations 1:10): and by degrees the observance of the seventh day was discontinued. 

    The important of the sacred day for man to rest from his temporal labors, contemplate the world of the Lord, and assemble for public worship is a major item in a person's spiritual development. Furthermore, a decay in the national religious life always follows any tendency toward carelessness in the matter of Sabbath observance. The existence of a weekly holy day is a most important safeguard: it leaves a constant reminder to the individual of his need for spiritual sustenance and his duty before God, and serves as a witness to the world that there is such a thing as revealed religion. 

    The change from observing the last day of the week to the first day of the week is not so important as is the concept and principle of the Sabbath. In either case, the Sabbath was symbolic of the mighty works of God, i,e., the creation of the earth, the deliverance of the Israel from Egypt and the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. 

    In these last days revelation confirms the significance of the Sabbath for the Lord's day and for other references to the Sabbath see: 2 King 4:23; 11:5-7; Isaiah 1:13; 58:13; Jeremiah 17:20-27; Ezekiel 20:12-13,16; Hosea 2:11; Amos 8:5; Matthew 12:1-13; Mark 2:23-28; 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:11-16; 14:1-5; John 5:18; 7:21-24; Roman 14:5-6; Galatians 4:10; Colossians 2:16 
  • pekalong.

    You are saying the Sabbath (seventh day of the week) is the Holy Day, which is the Fourth Commandment in the Ten Commandments. Now you are saying man's doctrine is to be obeyed by keeping the first day of the week.

    The Bible does NOT say the Sabbath has been changed from the 7th day of the week to the 1st.

    You are being inconsistent and you contradict yourself.

    That is because what you are saying is NOT based on the Bible. So they will always conflict with the word of God once you analyze them in light of the Bible.

    You need to study the Bible deeply with the guidance of the Holy Spirit and you will not err.
  • You mean those bible verses that I've shared didn't even acknowledges you that the Sabbath was changed from the last day to the first day of the week to commemorates Jesus Christ resurrection? In the old testament the seventh day was observed as Sabbath day which God rested from his almighty works of creating the earth but in the new testament when the Sabbath was changed to the first day of the week in which I've share the verses that talked about that change. That is to commemorated the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ and that's is where all the religions out there get their observations of keeping the first day of the week holy. Just like the pigs where SDA didn't eat them cause they thought the evil spirit were still in them after Jesus Christ cast them spirit into them. Also my friend I didn't put those verses in the bible I copy them exactly the way it was written in the bible.
  • pekalong.

    In Luke 4:16 we read that Jesus worshiped on the Sabbath as His custom was. In Acts we read about Paul worshiping on the Sabbath. In Isaiah 66:22, 23 we read about the Prophet Isiah prophesying that the God will be worshiped on the Sabbath in the new heaven and the new earth.

    And now to your use of Scripture to suggest that point to the authorized change in the day of the week for the Sabbath Day.

    1.  Acts 20:7: The verse reads in the New King James Version. Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his meeting until midnight. (Color is added). Let us look at what this particular verse is talking about in the context of the passage (Acts 20:7-12) it appears in. Someone wrote these words, "According to the Bible, each day begins at sundown and ends at the next sundown (Genesis 1:5, 8, 13, 19, 23, 31; Leviticus 23:32) and the dark part of the day comes first. So Sabbath begins Friday night at sundown and ends at Saturday night at sundown. This meeting of Acts 20 was held on the dark part of Sunday, or on what we now call Saturday night. The New English Bible begins Acts 20:7 like this: "On the Saturday night in our assembly . . ." It was a Saturday-night meeting, and it lasted until midnight. Paul was on a farewell tour and knew he would not see these people again before his death (verse 25). No wonder he preached so long! (No regular weekly service would have lasted all night.) Paul was "ready to depart on the morrow." The "breaking of bread" has no "holy day" significance whatever, because they broke bread daily (Acts 2:46). There is not the slightest indication in this Scripture passage that the first day is holy, nor that these early Christians considered it so. Nor is there the remotest evidence that the Sabbath had been changed. Incidentally, this meeting is probably mentioned in the Scripture only because of the miracle of raising Eutychus back to life after he fell to his death from the third-floor window. In Ezekiel 46:1, God refers to Sunday as one of the six "working days."

    2.  1 Corinthians 16:2: The verse reads, On the first day of the week, let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collection when I come. (Color is added). Doesn't 1 Corinthians 16:1, 2 speak of Sunday school offerings? Here is what someone wrote. "No, there is no reference here to a public meeting. The money was to be laid aside privately at home. Paul was writing to ask the churches in Asia Minor to assist their poverty stricken brethren in Jerusalem (Romans 15:26-28). These Christians all kept Sabbath holy, so Paul suggested that on Sunday morning, after the Sabbath was over, they put aside something for their needy brethren so it would be on hand when he came. It was to be done privately or, as La Santa Biblia (a Spanish translation) says, "at home." Notice also that there is no reference here to Sunday as a holy day. In fact, the Bible nowhere commands or even suggests Sunday-keeping. 

    3.  Revelation 1:10. Here is the words to the text. Again, I have provided color so it stands our among the other words. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet. This should not be used to support the change of the Sabbath at all. There is no reference at all to the first day of the week or Sunday. Jesus said that the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath, meaning He is Lord of the Sabbath because He created it. It is His day. It is God's holy day because He created it, blessed it, sanctified it, and set it aside.
     
    So who changed the Sabbath? First, we need to establish the question of Who created the Sabbath Day. This is a no-brainer. God created the Sabbath Day. And so the next question is, who has the authority to change it? If God created something, then who can change it?

    The term Lord's Day was coined by man to suggest a change from the seventh day to the first day of the week for the Sabbath. But this is not supported by the Bible. When God gave the Ten Commandments to the Israelites He spoke like thunder and there was lighting and other sound effects to get the attention of the people. People were afraid and paid attention and heard and remembered. Then Moses presented the Ten Commandments of two tablets of stone. It would only follow that if God would want to change the Ten Commandments He would get the people's attention first, then He would speak. We found nowhere in the Bible that He did this. So there is no Biblical proof that the Sabbath was changed by God from the seventh day of the week to the first. Sunday is just like any other day. It is not God's holy day. The seventh day, Saturday, is.

    God created the seventh-day Sabbath. As always, Satan made a counterfeit and made Sunday his day of worship.

    The word for Saturday in many languages mean Sabbath.

     
  • TruthisThat,

    hi...

    pek and majority of Christians around the globe say Lord's Day= First day of the week (Sunday)...

    I think if we look at this exact phrase in the bible, "Lord's Day"...  we may surprise ourselves!


    very good study, actually.


    i.e.: if we are openminded, openhearted... and willing to allow the Holy Spirit to speak to us... from His Word.
  • Whatever, aren't you glad that your the only  one who is extending the old testament to this new dispensation. I mean what the heck only God who know and will point out who is right and who is wrong. Don't worry too much TruthIsThat aren't you tired of arguing already? Myself I am tire and probably will not talk anymore and Let God and Jesus Christ be the judge of my deeds.
  • pekalong.

    No one person is extending the Fourth Commandment. The Ten Commandments, of which the fourth is a part and partial, is perpetual. It manifests the character of God. Are you saying God is changing His character, which that of love? 

    Has God abolished the Fourth Commandment? Did He do it without telling anyone? When He established it, people knew because there there was a loud noises, lights, smoke, and He spoke too.

    Should He not do the same to announce its repeal?
  • If you must follow the Law of Sabbath, then DON"T forget to KILL those who does not obey the SABBATH LAW. I believe the Law says that you don't show up at the Temple on Sabbath you're to be killed.

    In the Olden Days the Jews has to literally WEAR the LAW on their Bodies to ensure they don't forget the God's Laws or instructions....When Jesus came He required His Messages or Laws in OUR HEARTS/MINDS.

    Just like Sabbath was designated on certain days in the Olden Times...Today or from Jesus's time onwards -JESUS is our SABBATH, we need to worship God EVERYDAY (Every hour of your life) not just on Saturday or Sunday. Now let's close this thread.
  • Thank you Puller. You are the most sensible individual on this thread. You have my boy.
  • "Upon the first day of the week let everyone of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gathering when I come." (1 Corinthians `16:2) Now this thread is close forever.
  • “I'm completely in favor of the
    separation of Church and State.
    ... These two institutions screw us up enough
    on their own, so both of them together is
    certain death.”

    George Carlin
  • Oh really? I don't know about that cause I believe both of them are important to our lives. The State give us our physical strength and Church give us our spiritual strength. 
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